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thanks to u my friend . we hope the more
thanks to u my friend . we hope the more
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حبذا لو شرحت السبب وراء استخدام لفظ دون الاخرتعليق
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<p class="MsoNormal" dir="ltr" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; direction: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 18pt; color: blue">Say<p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" dir="ltr" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; direction: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 18pt; color: blue">Don’t make any trouble</span><span style="font-size: 18pt"> .<p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" dir="ltr" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; direction: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 18pt; color: red">Don’t say<p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" dir="ltr" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; direction: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 18pt; color: red">Don’t do any trouble.<p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" dir="ltr" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; direction: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 18pt"><p> </p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" dir="ltr" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; direction: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 18pt"><p> </p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" dir="ltr" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; direction: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 18pt; color: blue">Say <p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" dir="ltr" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; direction: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 18pt; color: blue">We took a walk along the river.<p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" dir="ltr" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; direction: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 18pt; color: red">Don’t say<p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" dir="ltr" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; direction: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 18pt; color: red">We made a walk along the river .<p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" dir="ltr" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; direction: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 18pt"><p> </p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" dir="ltr" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; direction: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 18pt"><p> </p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" dir="ltr" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; direction: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 18pt; color: blue">Say<p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" dir="ltr" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; direction: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 18pt; color: blue">I say my prayers five times a day .<p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" dir="ltr" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; direction: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 18pt; color: red">Don’t say<p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" dir="ltr" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; direction: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 18pt; color: red">I do my prayers five times a day .<p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" dir="ltr" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; direction: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 18pt; color: red"><p> </p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" dir="ltr" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; direction: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: red">Errors in English among Arabic speakers<p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" dir="ltr" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; direction: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: red">By : Nayef Kharma and Ali Hajjaj<p></p></span></p><p></p>
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Say/Don't say
<p align="right"><font face="Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" color="#660000" size="5"><strong>في البداية مبروك التوقيع الجميل والذي يحوي الكثير من المعاني <br /><br />وثانيا لي إعتراض على العبارة التالية</strong></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" dir="ltr" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; direction: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 18pt; color: blue">Say <p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" dir="ltr" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; direction: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 18pt; color: blue">I say my prayers five times a day . <p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" dir="ltr" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; direction: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 18pt; color: red">Don’t say <p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" dir="ltr" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; direction: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 18pt; color: red">I do my prayers five times a day . <p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" dir="ltr" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; direction: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 18pt; color: red"><p align="right"><font face="Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="5"><strong><font color="#660000">وذلك لأن الصلاة عند المسلمين تختلف عن الدعاء عند الغربيين في مفهومها وطريقة عملها ، ولذلك هي ليست قول بل فعل</font></strong></font></p><p align="right"><font face="Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="5"><strong><font color="#660000">ما رأيكم دام فضلكم؟<br /><img alt=" " src="http://www.wataonline.net/site/uploads/smil3dbd4e5e7563a.gif" /><img alt=" " src="http://www.wataonline.net/site/uploads/smil3dbd4e4c2e742.gif" /><img alt=" " src="http://www.wataonline.net/site/uploads/smil3dbd4e5e7563a.gif" /></font></strong></font></p></span></p>تعليق
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<p> </p><p class="MsoNormal" dir="rtl" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt"><span lang="AR-SA" style="font-size: 18pt; color: red">كلامك مقنع أستاذ أبو صالح ولكن تعلمنا أن <p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" dir="rtl" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt"><span dir="ltr" style="font-size: 18pt; color: red">Do prayers or read prayers <p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" dir="rtl" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt"><span lang="AR-SA" style="font-size: 18pt; color: red">لا تصح بالانجليزية وان التعبيرين من الاخطاء الشائعة .<p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" dir="rtl" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt"><span lang="AR-SA" style="font-size: 18pt; color: red">أتمنى من أهل الخبرة افادتنا</span><span lang="AR-SA"> .<p></p></span></p><p></p>تعليق
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<div class="comTitle" align="right"><font face="Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" color="#000099" size="5"><strong>كلمات في ترجمة المفاهيم الدينية</strong></font></div><br /><br /><a href="http://www.wataonline.net/site/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=1194&forum=17&post_ id=5610#forumpost5610">http://www.wataonline.net/site/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=1194&forum=17&post_ id=5610#forumpost5610</a>تعليق
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نفع الله بكم
موضوع مفيد بحقأستغفر اللهتعليق
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<br /><font color="#993300" size="5"><strong>Don't say:<br /><br />Here it is <font color="#0000ff">too</font> hot in the summer.<br /><br /><br /><font color="#ff6600">Say :<br /><br />Here it is <font color="#0000ff">very </font> hot in the summer.</font></strong></font>اللهم بارك لنا في شامناتعليق
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اللهم بارك لنا في شامناتعليق
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اللهم بارك لنا في شامناتعليق
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<font color="#0000ff" size="5">الأستاذ المحترم ياسين<br />السلام عليكم ورحمة الله<br /><br />يصحّ أن نقول (<font color="#ff0000">I say my prayer<u>s</u></font>) إذا كان المقصود بـ(<font color="#ff0000">prayers</font>) هو "<font color="#ff0000">الدعاء</font>" وليس "<font color="#ff0000">الصلاة</font>"، وهذا ما تعنيه كلمة (<strong><font color="#ff0000">prayers</font></strong>) أصلا إذا وردت في صيغة الجمع. وللعلم فإن المسيحيين الملتزمين (<font color="#ff0000">say their prayers</font>) قبل أن يأووا إلى الفراش.<br /><br />أما نحن المسلمين فـ"<font color="#ff0000">نصلـّي</font>" بالعربي -والحمد لله- ونـ"perform" صلاتنا بالإنجليزي إذا كنّا في بلاد "آل إنجلس وآل سكسون"<img alt=" " src="http://www.wataonline.net/site/uploads/smil3dbd4dbc14f3f.gif" /><img alt=" " src="http://www.wataonline.net/site/uploads/smil3dbd4e5e7563a.gif" />. وهي الكلمة الإنجليزية الأقرب إلى المعنى المقصود رغم أنها لا تف بالمعنى المطلوب، بل انها قد توحي بأن الصلاة عملية "مسرحية أدائية" (انظر معاني هذه الكلمة الإنجليزية). <br />وأرى من الأفضل للمسلم الناطق بالإنجليزية أن يقول (I'm going to pray Fajr, Dhuhr, etc). <br /><br />والله أعلم<br /><br />تحياتي،،،</font>د/ عبد المجيد العبيدي
لَعَمْـرُك ما الإنسانُ إلاّ بدينه فلا تترُك التّقوى اتّكالا على النسبْ
فقد رفعَ الإسلامُ سلمانَ فارسٍ وقد وضع الشركُ الشريفَ أبا لهبْتعليق
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<font size="5"><font color="#ff0000">Don't say</font> : That grocer has plenty of clients.<br /><br /><font color="#0000ff">Say:</font> That grocer has plenty of customers.<br /><br /><br />a customer at a shop<br /><br />a client of a bank,lawyer...</font>اللهم بارك لنا في شامناتعليق
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<p class="MsoNormal" dir="ltr" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; direction: ltr; line-height: normal; unicode-bidi: embed; text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: #1f497d; font-family: "arial","sans-serif"; mso-fareast-font-family: "times new roman"; mso-themecolor: text2">Regarding</span><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: "arial","sans-serif"; mso-fareast-font-family: "times new roman"">:<p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" dir="ltr" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; direction: ltr; line-height: normal; unicode-bidi: embed; text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: "arial","sans-serif"; mso-fareast-font-family: "times new roman""><br /><span style="color: #993300">Say:<br />Five hundred <u>and </u>twenty two.<br /><br />Don't say:<br />Five hundred twenty two.</span><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" dir="ltr" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt; direction: ltr; line-height: normal; unicode-bidi: embed; text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: "arial","sans-serif""><p> </p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" dir="ltr" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; direction: ltr; line-height: normal; unicode-bidi: embed; text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: #1f497d; font-family: "arial","sans-serif"; mso-fareast-font-family: "times new roman"; mso-themecolor: text2">A correction, if I may:<p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" dir="ltr" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt; direction: ltr; line-height: normal; unicode-bidi: embed; text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: #1f497d; font-family: "arial","sans-serif"; mso-themecolor: text2">When you translate to <i>British English</i>:<p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" dir="ltr" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; direction: ltr; line-height: normal; unicode-bidi: embed; text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: #993300; font-family: "arial","sans-serif"; mso-fareast-font-family: "times new roman"">Say:<br />Five hundred <u>and </u>twenty two.<br /><br />Don't say:<br />Five hundred twenty two.<p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" dir="ltr" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; direction: ltr; line-height: normal; unicode-bidi: embed; text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: #993300; font-family: "arial","sans-serif"; mso-fareast-font-family: "times new roman""><p> </p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" dir="ltr" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; direction: ltr; line-height: normal; unicode-bidi: embed; text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: #1f497d; font-family: "arial","sans-serif"; mso-fareast-font-family: "times new roman"; mso-themecolor: text2">The latter is proper<i> American English</i>.</span><span lang="AR-SA" dir="rtl" style="font-size: 14pt; color: #1f497d; font-family: "arial","sans-serif"; mso-fareast-font-family: "times new roman"; mso-themecolor: text2"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" dir="ltr" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; direction: ltr; line-height: normal; unicode-bidi: embed; text-align: left"><span lang="AR-SA" dir="rtl" style="font-size: 14pt; color: #1f497d; font-family: "arial","sans-serif"; mso-fareast-font-family: "times new roman"; mso-themecolor: text2"><p> </p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" dir="rtl" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal"><span lang="AR-SA" style="font-size: 14pt; color: #1f497d; font-family: "arial","sans-serif"; mso-fareast-font-family: "times new roman"; mso-themecolor: text2"><p> </p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" dir="rtl" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal"><span lang="AR-SA" style="font-size: 14pt; color: #1f497d; font-family: "arial","sans-serif"; mso-fareast-font-family: "times new roman"; mso-themecolor: text2">ونسأل الله أن يبارك في شامنا وشامكم.</span></p>مدونة أيام الصبر:
http://ayamalsabr.blogspot.com/تعليق
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<p class="MsoNormal" dir="rtl" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt"><span lang="AR-SA" style="font-size: 16pt; color: blue; line-height: 115%; font-family: "traditional arabic"; mso-ascii-font-family: "times new roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "times new roman"; mso-ansi-font-size: 14.0pt">أما نحن المسلمين فـ</span><span dir="ltr"></span><span dir="ltr" style="font-size: 14pt; color: blue; line-height: 115%; font-family: "times new roman","serif"; mso-bidi-font-family: "traditional arabic"; mso-bidi-font-size: 16.0pt"><span dir="ltr"></span>"</span><span lang="AR-SA" style="font-size: 16pt; color: red; line-height: 115%; font-family: "traditional arabic"; mso-ascii-font-family: "times new roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "times new roman"; mso-ansi-font-size: 14.0pt">نصلـّي</span><span dir="ltr"></span><span dir="ltr" style="font-size: 14pt; color: blue; line-height: 115%; font-family: "times new roman","serif"; mso-bidi-font-family: "traditional arabic"; mso-bidi-font-size: 16.0pt"><span dir="ltr"></span>" </span><span lang="AR-SA" style="font-size: 16pt; color: blue; line-height: 115%; font-family: "traditional arabic"; mso-ascii-font-family: "times new roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "times new roman"; mso-ansi-font-size: 14.0pt">بالعربي -والحمد</span><span dir="ltr"></span><span lang="AR-SA" dir="ltr" style="font-size: 14pt; color: blue; line-height: 115%; font-family: "times new roman","serif"; mso-bidi-font-family: "traditional arabic"; mso-bidi-font-size: 16.0pt"><span dir="ltr"></span> </span><span lang="AR-SA" style="font-size: 16pt; color: blue; line-height: 115%; font-family: "traditional arabic"; mso-ascii-font-family: "times new roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "times new roman"; mso-ansi-font-size: 14.0pt">لله- ونـ</span><span dir="ltr"></span><span dir="ltr" style="font-size: 14pt; color: blue; line-height: 115%; font-family: "times new roman","serif"; mso-bidi-font-family: "traditional arabic"; mso-bidi-font-size: 16.0pt"><span dir="ltr"></span>"perform" </span><span lang="AR-SA" style="font-size: 16pt; color: blue; line-height: 115%; font-family: "traditional arabic"; mso-ascii-font-family: "times new roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "times new roman"; mso-ansi-font-size: 14.0pt">صلاتنا بالإنجليزي إذا كنّا في بلاد "آل إنجلس وآل سكسون</span><span dir="ltr"></span><span dir="ltr" style="font-size: 14pt; color: blue; line-height: 115%; font-family: "times new roman","serif"; mso-bidi-font-family: "traditional arabic"; mso-bidi-font-size: 16.0pt"><span dir="ltr"></span>". </span><span lang="AR-SA" style="font-size: 16pt; color: blue; line-height: 115%; font-family: "traditional arabic"; mso-ascii-font-family: "times new roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "times new roman"; mso-ansi-font-size: 14.0pt">وهي</span><span dir="ltr"></span><span lang="AR-SA" dir="ltr" style="font-size: 14pt; color: blue; line-height: 115%; font-family: "times new roman","serif"; mso-bidi-font-family: "traditional arabic"; mso-bidi-font-size: 16.0pt"><span dir="ltr"></span> </span><span lang="AR-SA" style="font-size: 16pt; color: blue; line-height: 115%; font-family: "traditional arabic"; mso-ascii-font-family: "times new roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "times new roman"; mso-ansi-font-size: 14.0pt">الكلمة الإنجليزية الأقرب إلى المعنى المقصود رغم أنها لا تف بالمعنى المطلوب، بل</span><span dir="ltr"></span><span lang="AR-SA" dir="ltr" style="font-size: 14pt; color: blue; line-height: 115%; font-family: "times new roman","serif"; mso-bidi-font-family: "traditional arabic"; mso-bidi-font-size: 16.0pt"><span dir="ltr"></span> </span><span lang="AR-SA" style="font-size: 16pt; color: blue; line-height: 115%; font-family: "traditional arabic"; mso-ascii-font-family: "times new roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "times new roman"; mso-ansi-font-size: 14.0pt">انها قد توحي بأن الصلاة عملية "مسرحية أدائية" (انظر معاني هذه الكلمة</span><span dir="ltr"></span><span lang="AR-SA" dir="ltr" style="font-size: 14pt; color: blue; line-height: 115%; font-family: "times new roman","serif"; mso-bidi-font-family: "traditional arabic"; mso-bidi-font-size: 16.0pt"><span dir="ltr"></span> </span><span lang="AR-SA" style="font-size: 16pt; color: blue; line-height: 115%; font-family: "traditional arabic"; mso-ascii-font-family: "times new roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "times new roman"; mso-ansi-font-size: 14.0pt">الإنجليزية</span><span dir="ltr"></span><span dir="ltr" style="font-size: 14pt; color: blue; line-height: 115%; font-family: "times new roman","serif"; mso-bidi-font-family: "traditional arabic"; mso-bidi-font-size: 16.0pt"><span dir="ltr"></span>(</span><span dir="rtl"></span><span lang="AR-SA" style="font-size: 16pt; color: blue; line-height: 115%; font-family: "traditional arabic"; mso-ascii-font-family: "times new roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "times new roman"; mso-ansi-font-size: 14.0pt"><span dir="rtl"></span>.<p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" dir="rtl" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt"><span lang="AR-SA" style="font-size: 16pt; line-height: 115%; font-family: "traditional arabic"; mso-ascii-font-family: "times new roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "times new roman"; mso-ansi-font-size: 14.0pt">السلام عليكم،<br /><br />لفظ </span><span dir="ltr" style="font-size: 14pt; line-height: 115%; font-family: "times new roman","serif"; mso-bidi-font-family: "traditional arabic"; mso-bidi-font-size: 16.0pt">perform</span><span dir="rtl"></span><span lang="AR-SA" style="font-size: 16pt; line-height: 115%; font-family: "traditional arabic"; mso-ascii-font-family: "times new roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "times new roman"; mso-ansi-font-size: 14.0pt"><span dir="rtl"></span> هنا مناسب، فهو يستخدم بمعنى "يؤدي فرائضه".<p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" dir="ltr" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt; direction: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; text-align: center" align="center"><span style="font-size: 14pt; line-height: 115%; font-family: "times new roman","serif"; mso-bidi-font-family: "traditional arabic"; mso-bidi-font-size: 16.0pt">To perform one's duties.</span><span lang="AR-SA" dir="rtl" style="font-size: 16pt; line-height: 115%; font-family: "traditional arabic"; mso-ascii-font-family: "times new roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "times new roman"; mso-ansi-font-size: 14.0pt"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" dir="rtl" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt"><span lang="AR-SA" style="font-size: 16pt; line-height: 115%; font-family: "traditional arabic"; mso-ascii-font-family: "times new roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "times new roman"; mso-ansi-font-size: 14.0pt">كما يمكن استخدام صيغة أخرى لطيفة، وهي:<p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" dir="ltr" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt; direction: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; text-align: center" align="center"><span style="font-size: 14pt; line-height: 115%; font-family: "times new roman","serif"; mso-bidi-font-family: "traditional arabic"; mso-bidi-font-size: 16.0pt">I offer my five prayers daily.<p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" dir="rtl" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt"><span lang="AR-SA" style="font-size: 16pt; line-height: 115%; font-family: "traditional arabic"; mso-ascii-font-family: "times new roman"; mso-hansi-font-family: "times new roman"; mso-ansi-font-size: 14.0pt">ونسأل الله أن يتقبلها منا ومنكم كيفما وصفناها !<p></p></span></p>مدونة أيام الصبر:
http://ayamalsabr.blogspot.com/تعليق
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